Getting through placements

I've been studying at uni and have placements coming up further along in the course. They are FT ones for several weeks and I'd been concerned at whether I could do them (without aggravating my IST condition) and so as I had previous related work experience applied for credits so that I could get days off and then negotiate a PT arrangement spanning the same number of weeks as the other students but doing less days each week.

Today got a response saying I had been awarded NO credits for my past work experience inspite of having letter from 3 employers with current contact people and phone numbers who could also verify what they'd put in writing.

This throws a spanner in the works as the HECs debt is building up and I don't want to continue on further with the course due to this placement issue. I had met with the disability officer who felt a PT arrangement would be suitable but it's now harder as it would mean more weeks and thus so much harder for th uni. But also my medical evidence is 3 to 4 years old as most doctors don't know of my condition and think it's in my head and won't take it on board, let alone treat or monitor it. So I'm left totally to self management. I'm managing this OK by knowing my body and what it needs but certainly don't want to upset the apple cart and aggravate stuff.

So I'm now wondering whether I should just ditch uni and work in my current PT job whilst it's going (which is in the field I originally trained for, I went to uni as I went through a long period where I couldn't get suitable work in my field PT) which is until mid 2008 and perhaps even 2009 and thus use this time to seek out a permanent PT job as I have many months to do so.

Has anyone else had the placement issue problem.

Cheers DJ

At this point, given that

At this point, given that they haven't been all that helpful in giving you 0 credits, I wouldn't really be worried about making things easy on the uni. I think this may be one of those times when it is perfectly OK for you to be selfish.

I'd try to PT route with the support of the disabilities officer if you think you can manage. If you are iffy about how you'll cope, can you get a deferral and try again when you feel your health is more stable? With the information being a bit dated (it is more current than mine, if that makes you feel any better) am I reading it correctly that it is possible the disabilities officer may be more helpful if it was more current? That is almost a dealbreaker right there, the stress/energy spent on getting a current definitive diagnosis on paper would outweigh any benefit from having it for this purpose. In general, a good idea, but for this I don't know if it'd be worthwhile.

I'll see if I can grab Dan in here, he'd know more than me. Or Amy, if she hasn't melted yet.

I think I'd defer if possible, and see how the current PT job pans out (it doesn't sound like one you want to lose! Eye-wink). If, when the deferral runs out you feel like you could do the placement or you are more secure in your work, make the final decision then.
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Abbey

I haven't melted yet!! Not

I haven't melted yet!! Not quite anyway!!!
I'll probably be going through a similar thing in a few years, as the uni course I've applied for requires placements as well.....I'm hoping and crossing fingers I'm somewhat better then!! Laughing out loud
I had a bit of a problem when I started at uni doing the prep course this year, because when I saw the disabilities officer, I only had a little bit of documentation, mostly due to the fact that I had changed GPs in the previous few months (and have since lost that GP!! Sad ) And yes, they certainly do like very recent medical documentation.....I don't think they are up to date yet on how hard it is for people with CFS, Fibromyalgia, IST, and other "invisible" illnesses/disabilities to get that kind of documentation.
Anyway, I agree with Abbey, if you can defer it until you feel up to it, do that, and see where you get to with the job.
Do you mind me asking what uni you're at? You may have mentioned before, but my memory seems worse these days!!

Amy - Secretary, ME/CFS Society of NSW

Current Documentation

Hey everyone, I have noticed quite a few of you have issues with requiring regular and current medical documentation for either employment or study. I must say I think I am one of the few people with CFS who does have consistent and current documentation and I feel somewhat bad that I have kept this to myself for so long. I first developed CFS in 2001, three weeks before my HSC exams began. I had already heard about CFS and when I began experiencing the symptoms, I did some research and pretty much diagnosed myself. I did however, need the official diagnosis and was continually visiting the local medical centre every time a new symptom appeared. This medical centre had many doctors and of course, I got various diagnoses including it was stress from the HSC. Now I am a person who will accept when I am wrong but this felt much different and I knew I was right. Luckily, one day I saw a new doctor at the centre and he said straight away that he had a patient just like me who he had referred to a professor at Prince of Wales Hospital who studies CFS. I got a referral to see the professor and managed to get an appointment in March 2002 which was when I was officially diagnosed.

In this appointment he also completed the documentation for the disabilities service at university so I could get the arrangements I needed. Until this day, I still see the professor every 6-12 months so I have consistent and current documentation. The only thing is I require a referral each time from my GP as the referrals only last 12 months. Luckily, I found another local GP who runs his own practice who appreciates that I come in and ask for a referral to see the professor when I need to. If anyone wants any contact details, feel free to contact me via the forum or pm me.

Also, DJ, regarding your placement predicament, I suggest that if you have written evidence that your previous related work experience constituted credits which eased your placement arrangements, then use it. Show it to the people who can officially grant you the credits and get it marked officially. Go to your head of school – be prepared to go all the way to the top if need be. Or if you don’t have anything official, get the written evidence from the previous employers and have this cited by your subject/course coordinator then this should help. If you think it maybe too much hassle, think of what you will have to endure if you do not do anything.

I have been at uni for six years and I am about to start a 7th and any time I have had an issue with university administration, I don’t leave them alone until I get a arrangement that is suitable for me and nothing less. I was registered with the disabilities advisor as soon as I started university and made sure all the arrangements were in place. I didn’t have to do a placement for my course but the arrangements I made for me to complete the course were completely foreign to everyone involved so I just kept explaining it to anyone who needed to know. Now I have finished not only my bachelor’s degree but I also just finished my honours component. If nothing can be done, my advice would be to not ditch university as I found the mental stimulation helped me feel more normal, cleared the brain fog and gave me something else to focus on. Rather, you should aim to finish your course or possibly transfer to another course that you can finish so that you do not have an unfinished degree hanging over your head and keep up the part time job – you could reduce your study load if things get too hectic. Whilst you are still working and studying, you can seek permanent PT work in your desired field.

Hi Abbey, Amy and Sarah thanks

for your terrific responses to my post.
At this stage I'm going to find out why they didn't award any credits as I'd gone through the right process, filling out the right paperwork and so forth.
Then I will meet with the disability officer to discuss the situation and request an early meeting with the placement staff to see where I stand there. The disability officer had been happy to accept 2005 medical evidence and I explained the situation I've had about not being able to get access to treatment or monitoring and the issues around this (disbelieving and unwilling to treat doctors)
Then after that I can make a decision on what to do. Fortunately with my part time work I don't have to completely drop out of uni but will do very minimal credit points next year to delay having to defer as once you defer you only have a year off.
It took a number of years to find out the cause of my fatigue and not feeling well and every time I aggravated the condition it took many months to recover so feel that even working FT with flexible hours is pushing it and naturally don't want to take that risk as I'm not feeling too bad now through listening to my body and the help of a naturopath who was able to advise on what I was likely to be deficient in and a herbal mix to help as well.
However also before attempting a FT placement I'd want to give full time work a go to see how I went (which is when having a deferral would come in) as at least if it was too much I would have earnt some $$ to tide me over.
Amy have you discussed the situation about FT placement with the Disability Officer? Perhaps as I'm planning on doing it would be worth having an early meeting with the relevant staff to find out where you stand to allow you to plan.
Sarah your acheivement with your studies is terrific. And if I had a $1 for everytime someone told me how their physical condition had initially been fobbed off as stress I'd be an extremely rich women (hmm that's a way of raising $$$, I'll start billing everyone). And what amazes me is how once the health problem has been cited as "stress" how treatment is never offered to treat the "stress" nor is a time limit placed on how long the "stress" is expected to last. I am a sure a better approach would be for the GP and patient to make a very detailed agreement on what the patient should do say over 3 months to "manage their stress" with the provisio that if it doesn't work or some of the strategies make it worse that further investigations would occur.
My condition was picked up purely by fluke inspite of me raising regularly my health concerns for a couple of years prior (with no investigations made)
Anyhow I'm just wanting to find out where I stand by the end of 2007 so I can plan from there.
Cheers DJ

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